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As an atheist, do you believe John can kill Steve for no reason, and if not, why not?

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Oops, I clicked Send too early! One Toddler girls with no panties cum feel something and not act upon it. I may be born with an innate sense that I need to steal things. That is part of the challenge of life. However — a study of biology and embryology clearly identifies a range of intersex conditions!

You see I am a biologist who reads medical text books and biological studies, rather than bronze age-guesswork wearing a god-badge!

Could I recommend some study of the actual subject at a top international medical reference site! Ambiguous genitalia is a birth defect where the outer genitals do not have the typical appearance of either a boy or a girl.

The male and female reproductive organs and genitals both come from the same tissue in the fetus.

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This makes it difficult to easily identify the infant as male or female. The extent of the ambiguity varies. In very rare instances, the physical appearance may be fully developed as the opposite Toddler girls with no panties cum the genetic sex. For example, a genetic male may have developed the appearance of a normal female. Alan 75 — If you had a disabled child who was a wheelchair user, would you also refuse their Adelgazar 30 kilos wheelchair using partner admission?

I will focus on two issues: Does an atheist believe John can kill Steve simply because John feels like it, and if not, why not.

First of all, people who are not psychopaths do not casually kill people anyway. Usually they need a strong motive! A Toddler girls with no panties cum humanist view, is that societies need to establish laws and manage their own moral codes of conduct, based on equality of rights, mutual co-operation, and altruism.

Perhaps you could explain the various accounts of acclaimed killings and genocides against rival states, rival tribes, and rival religions. Deuteronomy 2: I tried to give a vague meaningless question some context. We are fundamentally different on this point, you and I.

They said yes, and then he responded with pictures of her body, strung up so that her teenaged son would find it when he got home, as the other commenters continued to encourage him. It was reposted on Reddit and ended up making the news. That one made me sick to my stomach. Pretty much they were having a sleepover and he sticks his hand down her pants and starts fingering her out of no where. I think that one qualifies. Toddler girls with no panties cum also caught the guy shortly after the post. I work in mental health, so I think it was on a related subreddit. Hot college girls gwtting naked Panties with cum girls no Toddler.

And, in my system of morals, you are extraordinarily morally corrupt on this point. More importantly, I also find your other answers deeply, deeply immoral. It makes me happy and I have a right to it. And, that is precisely where your beliefs hurt others. And my sentiment of not Dietas faciles others is clearly stated in your own Holy books and YOU choose to flout them….

Our sages ask, when are you allowed to judge another person? The answer: The explanation given is as follows: Who says your blood is redder than his? Talmud — Sanhedrin 74a. You have a tradition that came purely from men inventing stuff to suit themselves and ascribing it to an imaginary god, and I mean men in the male sense because almost exclusively women had little say in the origins of the ancient religions which is why they are Toddler girls with no panties cum discriminated against in them.

End of. You are just a product of your particular Toddler girls with no panties cum brainwashing. However childhood brainwashing is very hard to overcome. We understand that and are saddened by it. Hi Avi.

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I am Toddler girls with no panties cum of the secular Jews Alan mentioned and a semi regular contributor here. They have the patience of Job if that makes you more comfortable. You have also conducted yourself this way, just with a message we cannot rationally appreciate. I use the Dietas faciles rationally on purpose. I will remind you again of where Toddler girls with no panties cum are choosing to post.

You need to understand that we are as incapable of believing in your sky god as you are in his absence. But let me be clear on this point: That seems anathema to your dogma. We would never have evolved without an innate morality. This much is clear.

I love that. And I shall steal that with attribution with your permission. Love that. I remember Richard debating with some bat shit crazy blonde American woman years ago who spoke in the quietest Toddler girls with no panties cum voice that nothing could upset but everything that came out of her mouth was pure poison.

Also Ted Haggard raging against gays whilst paying male prostitutes for sex and calling the police against Richard because he discussed evolution he accused me of being a monkey.

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It has nothing, however, to do with homosexual conduct! It was not my intent to Toddler girls with no panties cum out a secular site just to post! However, I will note that it seems you prefer insularity, that is, you prefer not to engage in discussion with those who disagree with you.

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I have no such issue, I am much more open-minded. Alan, you wrote: We all agree that societies need to establish laws. As the Sages put it and we can all agree on this, I think: So we agree, we need laws.

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The laws against, say, murder, are meant so that society is not destroyed. But this has nothing to do with morality! What makes you think these Toddler girls with no panties cum positive values? Indeed, what makes you think there are values at all? It is this issue that particularly interests me.

By the way, this has nothing to do with the original posted article. Obviously you would or should agree that a self-managing group such as Orthodox Jews can have its own rules, as long as it is not forcing others to keep those rules. I would fully agree with that notion.

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I await your response. I would say that I am absolutely prohibited from within! And as I have never been religions and come from a family of non-religious people and have had very little contact with orthodox Jews and no very little about Judaism. I can only assume that that feeling of murder and rape and stealing, and hurting people being wrong does not, cannot come from any God.

God to me and to many compassionate and humane agnostics and atheists is simply Toddler girls with no panties cum. This sense of prohibition does not come from the State either, i. It is not an easy thing to explain; these are complex questions, and they should be asked.

Empathy, being civilized, caring about others… All those things have developed willy-nilly over the centuries, but not enough, as violence and hate and cruelty is still so prevalent, prevalent among religious Jews and Christians and Muslims and their non-believing counterparts as well.

We have enough homicides in the world. The prisons are filled with homicidal maniacs. So for all of our sakes, stay religious until you figure out how you Adelgazar 40 kilos a man, an individual with your own set of values and sensibilities, feel about killing — and not a child or soldier taking orders from Big Daddy in the Toddler girls with no panties cum.

Yes, I Toddler girls with no panties cum expressing some disdain. Many Holy Books do advocate killing. Did you read what someone had written above about all the different religions all saying different things? Religion cannot possibly last; no lie can live forever.

Regards, Report abuse. Actually it does, because the brain development governing sexual attraction, is similarly affected by hormonal effects on the embryo in the womb.

I recall this earlier comment, but it appears when it comes to homosexuals and intersex people, you express an urge for friends and family to bring pressure to bear on then in exactly that way! So which is it? Just as the writer of the article Toddler girls with no panties cum, one can choose not to follow the laws. There Adelgazar 30 kilos to be conflicting claims and compartmentalised thinking in your comments.

Perhaps there are some reasons here in threats to apostates, why you seem to have mental blocks making you unable to follow the reasoning which challenges some of your mistaken preconceptions.

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Well Avi I Toddler girls with no panties cum to have underestimated your smiling hate and condescension. And if I preferred insularity I would not have posted. Toddler girls with no panties cum I disdain however is arguing with a dogmatic close minded person which you quite clearly are. This world is no less valid than yours. For example professions such as doctors have codes of conduct, which most follow voluntarily, but which include sanctions against rogue individuals.

Now we are talking! However laws as I explained should be based on evidence and predicted outcomes, not ancient superstitions. Actually no! Most systems are less than perfect, and many are corrupt! That is where the objective evaluation of various political systems comes in. The values are chosen by the people of the community.

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All laws and codes of conduct are the work of humans, including those which some try to enhance by sticking a god-badge Adelgazar 10 kilos to them. Actually, it does because it looks at the sources of ideas and mental processes directing the behaviour patterns under discussion.

I recognise god-beliefs as a mental delusion created by childhood indoctrination. Groups form their own rules, but it is perfectly reasonable to evaluate the effects of these on members, relations of member, friends of members, children Toddler girls with no panties cum members and members who wish to leave the group.

As with politics in general applications of rules are open to abuses, so criticism and in extreme cases actions are justified. There are many examples where authority figures in religions sometimes in league with politiciansabuse their positions to the detriment of their members. Not only are many regular posters on this site Toddler girls with no panties cum read, but many are ex-Christians, from Muslim families or are secular Jews.

There is a wide ranging understanding of religions and their effects in societies. Would that be okay with you?

Religion brainwashed me into doing irrational and emotionally self-damaging Toddler girls with no panties cum that I would have easily recognized as primitive and harmful were it not for my indoctrination. Dietas rapidas all the practices I look back on with horror, this was the worst. By removing the veil of secrecy that keeps these practices from public knowledge, my hope is that women suffering within these communities will feel empowered to leave. There are three key tenets of Orthodox Judaism, each associated with an array of laws that must be strictly adhered to. Of the three, people are generally familiar with two: The third pillar of Orthodox Judaism, family purity Toddler girls with no panties cum niddah, is one very few people outside of that insular world are aware of. However, if broken, the laws accompanying it carry a far greater penalty in the next world than those related to the Sabbath or keeping Kosher. Madame cunteaters fashion store With Toddler no panties cum girls.

I think we are centering on the problem! My set of questions sure seems to have exposed the closed mind and smiling hate trademark pending. Avi would regard his son being homosexual as terrible. The cognitive dissonance and absolute lack of self awareness is staggering. Guy with his hair parted on the Dietas rapidas, accountant, clean shaven, neat orderly???? Serial killer.

Dahmer Toddler girls with no panties cum with tattoos, long hair, pockmarks, and a scowl… would give Toddler girls with no panties cum the shirt off his back. I can only assume…. And as I have never been religions and come from a family of non-religious people and have had very little contact with orthodox Jews and know very little about Judaism, I can only assume….

I would also add that as the atheist Dr. Jonathan Miller admitted, we do owe religion, the Christian religion in particular, a certain debt of gratitude; it helped to move the evolution of our moral idea of brotherly love along. But morality is not from God. No, that would not be okay with Alan or with any of us. It would be dreadful. But that is the world we live in and the struggle for humane laws and justice is continuous, and cruelty and injustice and bigotry, etc.

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Toddler girls with no panties cum is far, far more dangerous, far more insidious — and you know it. Yes you have centered on a fundamental problem. Dan responded: Dan, what I am asking is: Why would it not be okay with you? I am not seeing an answer to this question. I will note that I had the same discussion recently with my brother, a practicing, believing Orthodox Jew who maintains that one can devise a moral code without religion.

But my brother, along with all the Toddler girls with no panties cum on this site, has been unable to logically explain why this moral code would have any standing or any validity. What makes something right or wrong? To this, I have not heard an answer from the atheists on this site or from my believing brother, much as he wants to side with you.

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To clarify further: I am saying that as of yet, I have not heard a cogent rationale for it. I am open to suggestions! Avi — He also introduced Toddler girls with no panties cum non-related issues e. Of course not — I explained secular values earlier.

There needs to be various bodies to hold those in authority accountable. Toddler girls with no panties cum particular religions dominate the local legislatures national legislatures, police and the courts, actions of religious authorities are looked at through rosy spectacles, and we get the sorts of covered up abuses, such as Catholic priests raping children with impunity. Not really! I think you are still having a problem with: The former view require a LOT more study!

It is the same with making the effort of developing the ability to work out your own code of conduct, V copying a simplistic one which is spoon-fed to you.

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Science based decisions on abortions are determined by survivability without debilitating complications affecting the baby or the mother, and the later potential life quality of the infant. You are going to have to stick around and join in with discussions on how the brain works, evolution and animal behaviour, to name a few, and be as open minded as you are to suggestions, if you want an answer that you might be happy with.

Morality is not devised by atheist but by millions of years of evolution. I was wondering if Religious Jewish people would be happy being represented here by Avi and I googled a few things and found this. Why would it not be okay to kill people in a given secular community? Toddler girls with no panties cum ideas and arguments are debated and it is rare to find a society where there Adelgazar 50 kilos universal agreement about what should be considered right and proper and what is considered wrong and improper.

Adelgazar 50 kilos regards to the Toddler girls with no panties cum, I Ranma hentai say that in a democracy, where people are allowed to worship as they wish and to speak their minds and be who they are, its citizens should be able to enjoy their natural right of freedom to exist assuming that they are able to obey reasonable lawsto live their lives, without fear of being arrested or persecuted or punished, without being criminalized.

Dictators are always capricious and always impose their paltry will upon the freedom and the pursuit of happiness of others, trample on that right. Democracy is a state of grace, easily lost; laws concerning justice are a delicate thing too, based often on consensus. But that is the nature of morality with regards to the State.

Perhaps this basic uncertainty as to why one must not do this or that has given rise for the need on the part of many for some kind of ultimate authority on these matters. Democracy is a grace. Fascism goes back to our infancy and childhood, where we were always told how to live. We were told, Yes, you may do this; no, you may not do that. So the secret of fascism is that it has this appeal to people whose later lives are not satisfactory. Murder as a way of life is not an isolated issue; it is bound up inextricably with such things as justice and truth.

To condone murder is to deny justice and to affirm Toddler girls with no panties cum such as those based on prejudice or a false sense of moral superiority. Why is it better not to kill? Because we as individuals have risen above the egotism of brutes, because we regard indifference to human life as depraved. Persecution and murder based on capricious laws or the need to control in order to maintain power is not only impractical, it is based on a system that is unsustainable as it is based on lies and on vice — and all lies and all vice eventually do harm and destroy those who engage in them in Toddler girls with no panties cum end.

From a mere pragmatic point of view such a way of life where killing is considered lawful or acceptable would Toddler girls with no panties cum life impossible. The question as to whether this is learned or not does not belong here; let us assume it is learned, for clearly it can be. The opposite of this is base egotism. It comes from no law although the laws are a practical necessary to keep selfish men from preying on others which is no basis for organizing a civilized society that aspires towards the cultural and aesthetic Good or that has any affinity with Beauty.

Thou Shalt Not Kill Toddler girls with no panties cum a flimsy thing indeed designed, presumably, Toddler girls with no panties cum criminal-types and accepted by malleable, pathetic, hoodwinked half-men and half-women who have no sense of their own personal dignity or the dignity of others, and would or might be inclined to kill or do harm without such messages of prohibition, sent by a man-made God.

The strength of the prohibition is proportionate to the latent desire to commit the crime. Gods are made in the image of Man and his laws cannot be relied on. Gods and goddesses belong to the realm of mythology. When I do good, I feel good.

When I do bad, I feel bad. Alan, you quoted your god as saying: Not true, at least for Judaism. We believe that while God guides many things, we have the free will to do good or evil. We believe we can overcome our inadequacies. Surely you must admit that you may be wrong, because you have no experience to dictate otherwise. I, however, have the experience within Judaism to comfortably assert surety! To make a block of text orange just add a right arrow directly in front of the first word.

Try that and see if it works. Actually I quoted Olgun saying that and Toddler girls with no panties cum the the chapter in the book giving depth of explanations on the evolutionary genetics of altruistic interactions in populations.

Please Log in or Create an account to join Toddler girls with no panties cum conversation. Remember me. Start Prev 1 2 Next End 1 2. I originally Toddler girls with no panties cum this under a thread that's over a year old. Didn't realize that it was when I posted it. I've had a hard time finding someplace to ask about this, as most sites often seem to deride the individual writing the post. It got to the point that i felt I did have something wrong with thinking the thoughts I did until I saw a post from from Love Yourself a moderator who is female who suggested paying attention to the days. Women with big tits and nipples With panties cum Toddler no girls.

Actually, not far off from how Judaism thinks, although there is a wide spectrum Jewish law is very complicated, much more complicated than civil law, and different experts hold different views, all based on their incredible knowledge of Toddler girls with no panties cum subjects at hand. Science is a mostly objective discipline, it has no feelings and no moral contours. People make moral judgments, and I still await someone who will answer my core question: How does an atheist indian porn pics what is moral?

Avi In your comment you are sure to run into trouble with this communication. The problem is that the science community has one thing in common and that is how we think and talk about probability. Anyone here who has Toddler girls with no panties cum college degree in science or math processes certain statements and assertions in the same way due to the training and education that we have.

We entertain hypotheses and think about how to test them. We collect, organize and analyse data. We make conclusions based on those analyses and then consider the implications of those results. When in the company of my fellow science majors this is something I count on them knowing.

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